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	<title>Comments for Ian Bicking: a blog</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Configuration management: push vs. pull by Ian Bicking</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/configuration-management-push-vs-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-155831</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bicking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your example makes more sense to me than most use cases I've heard.  The way [Paul Smith mentions](#comment-155587) that EC2 instances can be started with a script to be run on boot seems kind of like a hybrid.  It's not exactly push, as the commands are executed offline on restart.  But it's not pull, in that everything is initiated when the server is requisitioned, and initiated by the requisitioner.  I guess it's async push...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example makes more sense to me than most use cases I&#8217;ve heard.  The way <a href="#comment-155587">Paul Smith mentions</a> that EC2 instances can be started with a script to be run on boot seems kind of like a hybrid.  It&#8217;s not exactly push, as the commands are executed offline on restart.  But it&#8217;s not pull, in that everything is initiated when the server is requisitioned, and initiated by the requisitioner.  I guess it&#8217;s async push&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Configuration management: push vs. pull by Chris AtLee</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/configuration-management-push-vs-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-155829</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris AtLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pull-based system is useful for test machines that constantly reboot to ensure a clean test environment.  Wouldn't it be easier to have the machine come up, pull its configuration, start testing than to have it come up, and wait for another server to configure it and start the tests?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pull-based system is useful for test machines that constantly reboot to ensure a clean test environment.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to have the machine come up, pull its configuration, start testing than to have it come up, and wait for another server to configure it and start the tests?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joining Mozilla by Gloria W</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/joining-mozilla/comment-page-1/#comment-155814</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! That is great news. Congratulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! That is great news. Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joining Mozilla by Tres Seaver</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/joining-mozilla/comment-page-1/#comment-155782</link>
		<dc:creator>Tres Seaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a great new gig!  I know y'all are go[ing to do amazing stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a great new gig!  I know y&#8217;all are go[ing to do amazing stuff.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joining Mozilla by Dorai Thodla</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/joining-mozilla/comment-page-1/#comment-155781</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorai Thodla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats. Would love to hear about Python projects there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats. Would love to hear about Python projects there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joining Mozilla by Larry Hastings</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/joining-mozilla/comment-page-1/#comment-155776</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, Ian!  Mozilla has a lot of smart people working there; I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, Ian!  Mozilla has a lot of smart people working there; I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll enjoy yourself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Configuration management: push vs. pull by Jorge Vargas</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/configuration-management-push-vs-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-155773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree. This is the main reason I was first turned on to toppcloud/silverlining having push combined with "a setup that does one thing and does it well" is an excellent combination. Will it scale? we'll see that when we need it. For now we are more than happy for running each app entirely on one box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree. This is the main reason I was first turned on to toppcloud/silverlining having push combined with &#8220;a setup that does one thing and does it well&#8221; is an excellent combination. Will it scale? we&#8217;ll see that when we need it. For now we are more than happy for running each app entirely on one box.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Configuration management: push vs. pull by Jorge Vargas</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/configuration-management-push-vs-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-155771</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's in the docs http://cloudsilverlining.org/design.html#fabric 

IMO Fabric's problem is that it expect you to run a lot of stuff on the server which makes it a messier approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in the docs <a href="http://cloudsilverlining.org/design.html#fabric" rel="nofollow">http://cloudsilverlining.org/design.html#fabric</a> </p>

<p>IMO Fabric&#8217;s problem is that it expect you to run a lot of stuff on the server which makes it a messier approach.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Configuration management: push vs. pull by Ian Bicking</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/configuration-management-push-vs-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-155767</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bicking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://cloudsilverlining.org/design.html#fabric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://cloudsilverlining.org/design.html#fabric" rel="nofollow">http://cloudsilverlining.org/design.html#fabric</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Joining Mozilla by Jorge Vargas</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2010/03/10/joining-mozilla/comment-page-1/#comment-155766</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats</p>
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