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	<title>Comments on: pyinstall is dead, long live pip!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Buck Golemon</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-99646</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Golemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn't it really be:

Perl::pip

And the other

python.pip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it really be:</p>

<p>Perl::pip</p>

<p>And the other</p>

<p>python.pip</p>
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		<title>By: Gael Pasgrimaud</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-62528</link>
		<dc:creator>Gael Pasgrimaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've just started a buildout recipe for pip: http://www.bitbucket.org/gawel/gprecipepip/overview/

Looks promissing. The recipe run a pip install command with subprocess.call() (cant use main() directly because you use sys.exit()) then run zc.recipe.egg.Scripts with all eggs found in parts/name/lib/pythonXX/site-packages and src/. Works like a charm :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just started a buildout recipe for pip: <a href="http://www.bitbucket.org/gawel/gprecipepip/overview/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bitbucket.org/gawel/gprecipepip/overview/</a></p>

<p>Looks promissing. The recipe run a pip install command with subprocess.call() (cant use main() directly because you use sys.exit()) then run zc.recipe.egg.Scripts with all eggs found in parts/name/lib/pythonXX/site-packages and src/. Works like a charm :)</p>
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		<title>By: anatoly techtonik</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-61788</link>
		<dc:creator>anatoly techtonik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about "pint"?

"For inexperienced user this package requires a pint of Python to be installed"
(sounds like minced "Python" cocktail - not too brilliant for an ad, brobably, but illustrates what can happen to your site-libs over the time if you WON'T USE it)

It also could be thought as an abbreviation of "Python INsTaller" without "s", because it doesn't install for Python for System, but rather system for Python. Missing "s" can be the Sign that pythonS are Silent Snakes that do not hiSS on inStall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;pint&#8221;?</p>

<p>&#8220;For inexperienced user this package requires a pint of Python to be installed&#8221;
(sounds like minced &#8220;Python&#8221; cocktail - not too brilliant for an ad, brobably, but illustrates what can happen to your site-libs over the time if you WON&#8217;T USE it)</p>

<p>It also could be thought as an abbreviation of &#8220;Python INsTaller&#8221; without &#8220;s&#8221;, because it doesn&#8217;t install for Python for System, but rather system for Python. Missing &#8220;s&#8221; can be the Sign that pythonS are Silent Snakes that do not hiSS on inStall.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Vargas</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-60048</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two things: 

1- about the name pypy (python interperter build on python) and pypi (python package index aka:cheeseshop) are already a mess, may as well leave it as pip since that is perl.

2- could you explain this thing about egg? I personally like not-zipped eggs as they let me read the source of libraries failing and/or poor documentation, it's great for development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two things: </p>

<p>1- about the name pypy (python interperter build on python) and pypi (python package index aka:cheeseshop) are already a mess, may as well leave it as pip since that is perl.</p>

<p>2- could you explain this thing about egg? I personally like not-zipped eggs as they let me read the source of libraries failing and/or poor documentation, it&#8217;s great for development.</p>
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		<title>By: benoitc</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-56354</link>
		<dc:creator>benoitc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the link. Exactly what I was looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the link. Exactly what I was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bicking</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-56334</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bicking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are using mod_wsgi, look at: http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/VirtualEnvironments -- it should all be applicable here.  If you are using HTTP proxying from a web server, it'll all be automatic so long as you start the server from within the environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are using mod_wsgi, look at: <a href="http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/VirtualEnvironments" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/VirtualEnvironments</a> &#8212; it should all be applicable here.  If you are using HTTP proxying from a web server, it&#8217;ll all be automatic so long as you start the server from within the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: benoitc</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-56332</link>
		<dc:creator>benoitc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trying to figure how integrate it with a web server (and especially virtualenv). Any idee? Should I only have to set path and VIRTUAL_ENV environnemnt variable ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trying to figure how integrate it with a web server (and especially virtualenv). Any idee? Should I only have to set path and VIRTUAL_ENV environnemnt variable ?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Perrin</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-55186</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with this! 

I particularly like the aspects highlighted at http://www.diigo.com/annotated/079484ba977b115c009b8faeb710e92e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with this! </p>

<p>I particularly like the aspects highlighted at <a href="http://www.diigo.com/annotated/079484ba977b115c009b8faeb710e92e" rel="nofollow">http://www.diigo.com/annotated/079484ba977b115c009b8faeb710e92e</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stosberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-55055</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stosberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "META.yml" spec describes a standard for declaring dependencies of Perl modules. See here:

http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec.html

This file is automatically generated when you "make dist" a CPAN module, so it is usually available. You can see an example for the "pip" distribution itself:

http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/pip-0.13/
http://search.cpan.org/src/ADAMK/pip-0.13/META.yml  

   Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;META.yml&#8221; spec describes a standard for declaring dependencies of Perl modules. See here:</p>

<p><a href="http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec.html" rel="nofollow">http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec.html</a></p>

<p>This file is automatically generated when you &#8220;make dist&#8221; a CPAN module, so it is usually available. You can see an example for the &#8220;pip&#8221; distribution itself:</p>

<p><a href="http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/pip-0.13/" rel="nofollow">http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/pip-0.13/</a>
<a href="http://search.cpan.org/src/ADAMK/pip-0.13/META.yml" rel="nofollow">http://search.cpan.org/src/ADAMK/pip-0.13/META.yml</a>  </p>

<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bicking</title>
		<link>http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/comment-page-1/#comment-55054</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bicking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pip actually looks like it has some similarities.  `.p5i` files are the same as pip requirement files, and `.p5z` are like pybundles.  Are there conventions for declaring dependencies in Perl?  The Perl pip has a terrible search score -- if you just search for "pip" it hardly shows up at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pip actually looks like it has some similarities.  <code>.p5i</code> files are the same as pip requirement files, and <code>.p5z</code> are like pybundles.  Are there conventions for declaring dependencies in Perl?  The Perl pip has a terrible search score &#8212; if you just search for &#8220;pip&#8221; it hardly shows up at all.</p>
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