Comments on: A Simple CMS http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:00:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: JustinJools http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-166200 JustinJools Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:03:56 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-166200 Concrete 5 will make you smile :) Concrete 5 will make you smile :)

]]> By: JustinJools http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-166199 JustinJools Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:01:21 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-166199 Having used Joomla (what a mess) and Wordpress, I recently researched the best CMS for a client. And after testing and reading numerous systems I found Concrete5 :) which is without doubt the best CMS for medium to small websites, no doubt it can't compete with Drupal for large feature rich websistes ala the BBC, but for everything else the user friendliness and easy template system makes me wonder why I ever had to lose so many brain cells and endure headaches setting up a Joomla system (I am still unfortunate enough to be migrating a Joomla site from test to live but hopefully my last view of Joomla's big fat hairy arse I have to see again. Wonderful C5: clean, light and a breeze for both user and developer. I wonder what the future of Joomla will be if it doesnt take not! Having used Joomla (what a mess) and Wordpress, I recently researched the best CMS for a client. And after testing and reading numerous systems I found Concrete5 :) which is without doubt the best CMS for medium to small websites, no doubt it can’t compete with Drupal for large feature rich websistes ala the BBC, but for everything else the user friendliness and easy template system makes me wonder why I ever had to lose so many brain cells and endure headaches setting up a Joomla system (I am still unfortunate enough to be migrating a Joomla site from test to live but hopefully my last view of Joomla’s big fat hairy arse I have to see again. Wonderful C5: clean, light and a breeze for both user and developer. I wonder what the future of Joomla will be if it doesnt take not!

]]> By: Simon Hildebrandt http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-64662 Simon Hildebrandt Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:01:42 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-64662 I think Ian's describing something a lot simpler than any of these suggestions - maybe something more like scratchSite, a quick hack CMS I wrote a few years ago. It's a single PHP file, a single JS file and a single CSS file. It does a single flat list of pages based on a single template. You download it, customise the template, stick the lot on some cheap PHP hosting and you're done. Stupidly simple auth, in-place content editing and serialised data store - as a Zope/Plone developer these days I'm horrified at how ugly a hack this is, but it's exactly what the doctor ordered for the user. Wow, I've even got the code still floating around: http://code.google.com/p/scraps/source/browse/#svn/trunk/scratchSite/source A sequel with hierarchical pages, better auth and fancier editing was planned - maybe someday, if enough low-tech friends ask me to do websites for them. :) I think Ian’s describing something a lot simpler than any of these suggestions – maybe something more like scratchSite, a quick hack CMS I wrote a few years ago.

It’s a single PHP file, a single JS file and a single CSS file. It does a single flat list of pages based on a single template. You download it, customise the template, stick the lot on some cheap PHP hosting and you’re done. Stupidly simple auth, in-place content editing and serialised data store – as a Zope/Plone developer these days I’m horrified at how ugly a hack this is, but it’s exactly what the doctor ordered for the user. Wow, I’ve even got the code still floating around:

http://code.google.com/p/scraps/source/browse/#svn/trunk/scratchSite/source

A sequel with hierarchical pages, better auth and fancier editing was planned – maybe someday, if enough low-tech friends ask me to do websites for them. :)

]]> By: Karl Voss http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-18817 Karl Voss Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:51:13 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-18817 Maybe nanoc? http://nanoc.stoneship.org/help/manual/chapter-1/ Maybe nanoc?

http://nanoc.stoneship.org/help/manual/chapter-1/

]]> By: bycco http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-18399 bycco Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:54:54 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-18399 What about LTSun, snewscms or webyep? What about LTSun, snewscms or webyep?

]]> By: Daniel Ritchie http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-15981 Daniel Ritchie Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:00:27 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-15981 Ian, I thought of you again, when I reached the end of the GoPHP5 projects list, and found [Thacmus](http://sourceforge.net/projects/thacmus/). Ian, I thought of you again, when I reached the end of the GoPHP5 projects list, and found Thacmus.

]]> By: Daniel Ritchie http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-15768 Daniel Ritchie Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:27:45 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-15768 I checked out [PureEdit.com](http://www.pureedit.com/) and found that a page on that site, built in PureEdit, is sitting open with world writeable edit feature. I didn't look for more pages, and the other people who found it before me were nice about it too. He's lucky. I checked out PureEdit.com and found that a page on that site, built in PureEdit, is sitting open with world writeable edit feature. I didn’t look for more pages, and the other people who found it before me were nice about it too. He’s lucky.

]]> By: Ian Bicking http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-15699 Ian Bicking Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:01:18 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-15699 The reason Django isn't even close is that I'd like something that *I don't need to help maintain*. With that in mind, Django is not even close. The reason Django isn’t even close is that I’d like something that I don’t need to help maintain. With that in mind, Django is not even close.

]]> By: Alex V. Koval http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-15696 Alex V. Koval Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:32:15 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-15696 Hello Ian, despite your comment that Django "Not even remotely close." I tend to disagree. I've worked with Plone, Wiki (ZWiki), PHP, Perl, Wordpress, and a static tools (like Dreamweaver or MS Homesite). While I am software developer, it is interesting to see end-users reaction to things we do, and how easy they accept tools we provide. As far I've seen so far, things like Plone were easy to 'dive in', but difficult to change particular pars - its either works, or not. Wiki is too limited for a typical site like you require (and most users do). PHP is a thing from software development, and end user should have some knowelerge to use it. Also, PHP syntax and error handling are far from excellent. IMO, most acceptable were either Microsoft Front Page, or Django. Please don't be surprised, but the template system and ability to quickly prepare model & represent it in page, with automated /admin/ is the thing users usually satisfied with. A typical "CMS" site have 2 models: ContentBlock (a block of text) and ContentList (a menu). That is more then enough to start, with a good devision on templates. As an example of such site, built in 3 days is here: http://www.urbanalarm.com/. It has been made in a 3 days for one of our customers, and they are happy. Or another 2 hours work is here (Russian): http://www.artmama.com.ua. Also, typical CMS. Allows to edit pictures, static pages, galleries and images. And worth to spend 3 hours of developer time to develop and set it up initially, and end users use it. Alex Hello Ian, despite your comment that Django “Not even remotely close.” I tend to disagree. I’ve worked with Plone, Wiki (ZWiki), PHP, Perl, Wordpress, and a static tools (like Dreamweaver or MS Homesite). While I am software developer, it is interesting to see end-users reaction to things we do, and how easy they accept tools we provide. As far I’ve seen so far, things like Plone were easy to ‘dive in’, but difficult to change particular pars – its either works, or not. Wiki is too limited for a typical site like you require (and most users do). PHP is a thing from software development, and end user should have some knowelerge to use it. Also, PHP syntax and error handling are far from excellent. IMO, most acceptable were either Microsoft Front Page, or Django. Please don’t be surprised, but the template system and ability to quickly prepare model & represent it in page, with automated /admin/ is the thing users usually satisfied with. A typical “CMS” site have 2 models: ContentBlock (a block of text) and ContentList (a menu). That is more then enough to start, with a good devision on templates. As an example of such site, built in 3 days is here: http://www.urbanalarm.com/. It has been made in a 3 days for one of our customers, and they are happy. Or another 2 hours work is here (Russian): http://www.artmama.com.ua. Also, typical CMS. Allows to edit pictures, static pages, galleries and images. And worth to spend 3 hours of developer time to develop and set it up initially, and end users use it. Alex

]]> By: Michael Dick http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/comment-page-1/#comment-15426 Michael Dick Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:36:03 +0000 http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/02/05/a-simple-cms/#comment-15426 http://www.pureedit.com -- All you need to do is build your database and PE does the rest, no strings attached. :). http://www.pureedit.com — All you need to do is build your database and PE does the rest, no strings attached. :).

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